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	<title>Comments on: Taxi&#8217;s rooftop ads remain unlawful</title>
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		<title>By: Roof-Top Signs &#8211; Sign Securers, Truck And Car Toppers</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-13208</link>
		<dc:creator>Roof-Top Signs &#8211; Sign Securers, Truck And Car Toppers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Taxi&#8217;s rooftop ads remain unlawful :: Fayetteville Flyer &#8211; It&#8217;s not so much the law that&#8217;s annoying, but the reasoning the members gave. Forbidding roof top signs doesn&#8217;t make your town unique. If you think it makes you unique then you really need to look up the definition of the word. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Taxi&#8217;s rooftop ads remain unlawful :: Fayetteville Flyer &#8211; It&#8217;s not so much the law that&#8217;s annoying, but the reasoning the members gave. Forbidding roof top signs doesn&#8217;t make your town unique. If you think it makes you unique then you really need to look up the definition of the word. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Total Bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7335</link>
		<dc:creator>Total Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>College Ave isn&#039;t appealing because of the clutter.

As older businesses are replaced by new ones, its gradually getting better as far as clutter goes, just like 6th/MLK.

The point is to move in the right direction with regard to signs.  Its not about being &quot;unique&quot; as much as it is making decisions that are consistent regarding signage, and moving in a direction of less clutter.  Good?  Yes.

Having a signage free-for-all doesn&#039;t make a town unique, either.  It does make a town ugly, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>College Ave isn&#8217;t appealing because of the clutter.</p>
<p>As older businesses are replaced by new ones, its gradually getting better as far as clutter goes, just like 6th/MLK.</p>
<p>The point is to move in the right direction with regard to signs.  Its not about being &#8220;unique&#8221; as much as it is making decisions that are consistent regarding signage, and moving in a direction of less clutter.  Good?  Yes.</p>
<p>Having a signage free-for-all doesn&#8217;t make a town unique, either.  It does make a town ugly, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Possible</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7330</link>
		<dc:creator>Possible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story has completely made me change the way I think about Fayetteville.
It&#039;s not like the are large signs. They are no more distracting or obnoxious than a large window sticker on a pickup. Besides it&#039;s not like College is the most visually appealing street in the world either. It&#039;s cluttered on it&#039;s own. What&#039;s a few more signs?!

It&#039;s not so much the law that&#039;s annoying, but the reasoning the members gave. Forbidding roof top signs doesn&#039;t make your town unique. If you think it makes you unique then you really need to look up the definition of the word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story has completely made me change the way I think about Fayetteville.<br />
It&#8217;s not like the are large signs. They are no more distracting or obnoxious than a large window sticker on a pickup. Besides it&#8217;s not like College is the most visually appealing street in the world either. It&#8217;s cluttered on it&#8217;s own. What&#8217;s a few more signs?!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much the law that&#8217;s annoying, but the reasoning the members gave. Forbidding roof top signs doesn&#8217;t make your town unique. If you think it makes you unique then you really need to look up the definition of the word.</p>
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		<title>By: Total Bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7293</link>
		<dc:creator>Total Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the point?  

Fayetteville has always had taxis.  It will continue to have taxis.  This sign ordinance won&#039;t change that.  Like I said, are you really going to miss out by not having advertising whizzing past you at 35mph on College Avenue?

Anybody who wants to argue slippery-slope style about the erosion of the rights of cabbies can speak to the slippery slope of loosening sign restrictions.

The fewer, smaller signs cluttering up the city, the better.

Until someone demonstrates that its had a negative economic impact on Fayetteville, I&#039;ll not change my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the point?  </p>
<p>Fayetteville has always had taxis.  It will continue to have taxis.  This sign ordinance won&#8217;t change that.  Like I said, are you really going to miss out by not having advertising whizzing past you at 35mph on College Avenue?</p>
<p>Anybody who wants to argue slippery-slope style about the erosion of the rights of cabbies can speak to the slippery slope of loosening sign restrictions.</p>
<p>The fewer, smaller signs cluttering up the city, the better.</p>
<p>Until someone demonstrates that its had a negative economic impact on Fayetteville, I&#8217;ll not change my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: yrfuneralmytrial</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7290</link>
		<dc:creator>yrfuneralmytrial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But you might get run over if somebody else is distracted by a cab sign.&quot;

-Or a stoner completely mesmerized by the Eureka Pizza sign. Or an ice cream lover daydreaming of his childhood summers whilst staring at the passing ice cream truck. My point being that there are many distractions out there. Best you take a cab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But you might get run over if somebody else is distracted by a cab sign.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Or a stoner completely mesmerized by the Eureka Pizza sign. Or an ice cream lover daydreaming of his childhood summers whilst staring at the passing ice cream truck. My point being that there are many distractions out there. Best you take a cab.</p>
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		<title>By: David Franks</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7286</link>
		<dc:creator>David Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you might get run over if somebody else is distracted by a cab sign.</description>
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		<title>By: Butt Bomb</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7285</link>
		<dc:creator>Butt Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread is comical and really interesting to see where the general public chooses to fight their battles when it comes to preserving our Fayetteville womb. Since we are all spooging our opinions anyway, hey what the hell:

Cabs will always be few and far between in Fayetteville due to the structure of the town and also because most people own their own vehicles. I mean, we are still in Arkansas; what&#039;s a man without his ride, ya know? With that being said, how could cab signage be an issue when they would be just as frequent of an eyesore as a pizza delivery vehicle? And who knows, maybe one of those cabs will host signage endorsing one of our very own local businesses. Hey, wouldn&#039;t that be novel? But, probably not. Having your local business on a cab is totally un-hip.

If a few people are able to get some jobs by driving some other people around in a yellow car with a sign on it who might not otherwise be able to get to a specific location because they are either a. too old, b. drunk, c. car-less, or d. lost, well I&#039;m all for it. I&#039;ve been riding my bike in Fayetteville for as long as I can remember and I was born here and I&#039;ll be damned if I am going to get run over because I was distracted by a cab sign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread is comical and really interesting to see where the general public chooses to fight their battles when it comes to preserving our Fayetteville womb. Since we are all spooging our opinions anyway, hey what the hell:</p>
<p>Cabs will always be few and far between in Fayetteville due to the structure of the town and also because most people own their own vehicles. I mean, we are still in Arkansas; what&#8217;s a man without his ride, ya know? With that being said, how could cab signage be an issue when they would be just as frequent of an eyesore as a pizza delivery vehicle? And who knows, maybe one of those cabs will host signage endorsing one of our very own local businesses. Hey, wouldn&#8217;t that be novel? But, probably not. Having your local business on a cab is totally un-hip.</p>
<p>If a few people are able to get some jobs by driving some other people around in a yellow car with a sign on it who might not otherwise be able to get to a specific location because they are either a. too old, b. drunk, c. car-less, or d. lost, well I&#8217;m all for it. I&#8217;ve been riding my bike in Fayetteville for as long as I can remember and I was born here and I&#8217;ll be damned if I am going to get run over because I was distracted by a cab sign.</p>
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		<title>By: fayettvillan</title>
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		<dc:creator>fayettvillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the first commenter, I saw a guy on a bike get a DWI last weekend, and since I imagine a lot of folks only take cabs when they&#039;ve been drinking, I don&#039;t think that is very solid advice.  Fayetteville made it&#039;s bed long ago on this issue, and this seems a bit extreme, as it takes away from the margins the struggling cab companies operate in.  At the point that a pizza guy can have a sign on top of his car, your typical, &quot;we don&#039;t want to become Springdale&quot; argument flies out the window, because at the end of the day, a sign is a sign is a sign.  I know, I know, they are different....lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the first commenter, I saw a guy on a bike get a DWI last weekend, and since I imagine a lot of folks only take cabs when they&#8217;ve been drinking, I don&#8217;t think that is very solid advice.  Fayetteville made it&#8217;s bed long ago on this issue, and this seems a bit extreme, as it takes away from the margins the struggling cab companies operate in.  At the point that a pizza guy can have a sign on top of his car, your typical, &#8220;we don&#8217;t want to become Springdale&#8221; argument flies out the window, because at the end of the day, a sign is a sign is a sign.  I know, I know, they are different&#8230;.lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Total Bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7275</link>
		<dc:creator>Total Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lighted signs (or scrolling in the future) on the top of cabs are way different than a car wrap.  Car wraps don&#039;t light up.  They don&#039;t emit light into the city.  They aren&#039;t distracting at night.  They aren&#039;t changed constantly, and generally they only advertise for the people who own the vehicles themselves.

Yeah, its minor, but whats the difference between a lighted cab advert on top of a moving vehicle, and that same sign placed on the ground in a high profile location?  There&#039;s not much difference in my opinion.  

I just don&#039;t like the precedent it sets with signage.  I don&#039;t like the enforcement it would require.  Permitting, size verification, etc etc.  

If there were big benefits to considering it, the city should.  There aren&#039;t any benefits to anybody but the cab company.

Are people really upset because we will have less advertising in our lives as a result of this decision?  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighted signs (or scrolling in the future) on the top of cabs are way different than a car wrap.  Car wraps don&#8217;t light up.  They don&#8217;t emit light into the city.  They aren&#8217;t distracting at night.  They aren&#8217;t changed constantly, and generally they only advertise for the people who own the vehicles themselves.</p>
<p>Yeah, its minor, but whats the difference between a lighted cab advert on top of a moving vehicle, and that same sign placed on the ground in a high profile location?  There&#8217;s not much difference in my opinion.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t like the precedent it sets with signage.  I don&#8217;t like the enforcement it would require.  Permitting, size verification, etc etc.  </p>
<p>If there were big benefits to considering it, the city should.  There aren&#8217;t any benefits to anybody but the cab company.</p>
<p>Are people really upset because we will have less advertising in our lives as a result of this decision?  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: yrfuneralmytrial</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>yrfuneralmytrial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zebra stripes are the least of QC Auto&#039;s worries. Have a look behind it sometime. Mystery barrels of nastiness that stormwater runoff saturates everytime it rains. Mmmm mmmm good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zebra stripes are the least of QC Auto&#8217;s worries. Have a look behind it sometime. Mystery barrels of nastiness that stormwater runoff saturates everytime it rains. Mmmm mmmm good.</p>
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		<title>By: David Franks</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7269</link>
		<dc:creator>David Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any set of ordinances requires time and effort for oversight; I expect that even Springdale&#039;s lenient sign ordinance is up for consideration fairly regularly as people try to get around it.

If we couldn&#039;t have &quot;ugly&quot; buildings, nothing would get built. A building must first be functional and durable. If it can serve as its own sign, so much the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any set of ordinances requires time and effort for oversight; I expect that even Springdale&#8217;s lenient sign ordinance is up for consideration fairly regularly as people try to get around it.</p>
<p>If we couldn&#8217;t have &#8220;ugly&#8221; buildings, nothing would get built. A building must first be functional and durable. If it can serve as its own sign, so much the better.</p>
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		<title>By: unicorn</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7259</link>
		<dc:creator>unicorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really, this is what our sign ordinance people want to spend time on?
 
I&#039;m all for regulation that keeps our city beautiful, but spending time and effort to keep signage off of cabs (where it&#039;s not really hurting the landscape) while QC auto sales is welcome to keep their zebra striped rooftop seems like the cc needs to reexamine it&#039;s priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really, this is what our sign ordinance people want to spend time on?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for regulation that keeps our city beautiful, but spending time and effort to keep signage off of cabs (where it&#8217;s not really hurting the landscape) while QC auto sales is welcome to keep their zebra striped rooftop seems like the cc needs to reexamine it&#8217;s priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: David Franks</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7246</link>
		<dc:creator>David Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DVD players would be no more expensive than rooftop signage-- probably quite a bit less. The businesses buying the ads would provide the digital content. DVD editing/burning software isn&#039;t expensive, and content could be updated quickly.

For example, taking a fare to Dillon&#039;s: Run the latest circular, newspaper ad or commercial. Add a couple of branded recipe ideas. Nice weather? Add a spot about some of the parks, suggesting a picnic.

Your drunk dude? Restaurant ads featuring good solid breakfast fare. Pharmacy ads for painkillers and Vitamin C. Convenience store ads for carbs and orange juice. (Might even get additional time and miles for side trip.) Church ads, to bring on a remorse.

Targeted advertising generates more revenue than broadly cast advertising, so this wouldn&#039;t necessarily be a consolation prize.

The sign law was in place before the taxi company came to town. They didn&#039;t have to go on bended knee to the council, but they wanted to do something outside the sign ordinance.

Never minding the hinkiness of the Divinity approval, and the boneheaded location, it looks like Fayetteville dodged another Renaissance. Perhaps Mr. Barber shouldn&#039;t have paid so much for that land.

I agree about Lowlife Tattoo-- that whole flap was just dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVD players would be no more expensive than rooftop signage&#8211; probably quite a bit less. The businesses buying the ads would provide the digital content. DVD editing/burning software isn&#8217;t expensive, and content could be updated quickly.</p>
<p>For example, taking a fare to Dillon&#8217;s: Run the latest circular, newspaper ad or commercial. Add a couple of branded recipe ideas. Nice weather? Add a spot about some of the parks, suggesting a picnic.</p>
<p>Your drunk dude? Restaurant ads featuring good solid breakfast fare. Pharmacy ads for painkillers and Vitamin C. Convenience store ads for carbs and orange juice. (Might even get additional time and miles for side trip.) Church ads, to bring on a remorse.</p>
<p>Targeted advertising generates more revenue than broadly cast advertising, so this wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be a consolation prize.</p>
<p>The sign law was in place before the taxi company came to town. They didn&#8217;t have to go on bended knee to the council, but they wanted to do something outside the sign ordinance.</p>
<p>Never minding the hinkiness of the Divinity approval, and the boneheaded location, it looks like Fayetteville dodged another Renaissance. Perhaps Mr. Barber shouldn&#8217;t have paid so much for that land.</p>
<p>I agree about Lowlife Tattoo&#8211; that whole flap was just dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: yrfuneralmytrial</title>
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		<dc:creator>yrfuneralmytrial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 06:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF: your solution for the cab company sounds like a bad consolation prize. &quot;Hey guys, pony up for a multi-media system in each car and try to sell that drunk dude something&quot;. Mind you, it&#039;s not really about the taxi ads for me. I get tired of seeing business owners (or prospective business owners) having to get on bended knee while council members offer up hollow suggestions. I&#039;m reminded of the Divinity hotel project. &quot;We love the idea and desperately need a hotel but we just don&#039;t want it right there. Can you put it on the south side of town?&quot; Really? The guy spends 5 million + and is zoned correctly and everyone wants to dictate what it&#039;s called, where it&#039;s located etc... Or recently, the &quot;Lowlife&quot; tattoo guy. Because Adella couldn&#039;t stomach the word &quot;lowlife&quot;, this guy was twiddling his thumbs and losing money daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF: your solution for the cab company sounds like a bad consolation prize. &#8220;Hey guys, pony up for a multi-media system in each car and try to sell that drunk dude something&#8221;. Mind you, it&#8217;s not really about the taxi ads for me. I get tired of seeing business owners (or prospective business owners) having to get on bended knee while council members offer up hollow suggestions. I&#8217;m reminded of the Divinity hotel project. &#8220;We love the idea and desperately need a hotel but we just don&#8217;t want it right there. Can you put it on the south side of town?&#8221; Really? The guy spends 5 million + and is zoned correctly and everyone wants to dictate what it&#8217;s called, where it&#8217;s located etc&#8230; Or recently, the &#8220;Lowlife&#8221; tattoo guy. Because Adella couldn&#8217;t stomach the word &#8220;lowlife&#8221;, this guy was twiddling his thumbs and losing money daily.</p>
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		<title>By: David Franks</title>
		<link>http://www.fayettevilleflyer.com/2009/03/06/taxis-rooftop-ads-remain-unlawful/comment-page-1/#comment-7242</link>
		<dc:creator>David Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some common sense, then:

If Fayetteville were like New York City, where the taxi fleet is a widely-used part of the transit system, it might make some sense to have large cab company ads on top of cabs to advertise their presence and make them easier to hail. Since people in Fayetteville call for cabs, there is no need for them to have advertising signs on them. If the purpose is to advertise other businesses, then I&#039;ll object on the grounds that I don&#039;t acquire goods or services based on advertising. Since there is no likelihood that I would buy something based on an ad on top of a cab, I see no point in being subjected to such ads.

It is generally the case that vehicles with advertising on them are touting the business that owns the vehicle. As long as those ads are static and on the body of the vehicle, I can&#039;t object to them. Once advertising is animated (the new trend in automotive advertising), brightly illuminated, or extends the envelope of the vehicle, it becomes a danger to traffic.

I would prefer that ORT not have to whore for money, but that&#039;s the way it is. I acknowledge the social value of buses; I&#039;ll also note that they are large enough to command attention and care, whether covered with ads or not.

If the cab companies need ad revenue from outside sources, then I suggest they put DVD players inside with advertising tracks based on the rider&#039;s destination-- grocery, mall, pharmacy, and so on, with additional ads interspersed.

We are already inundated with information and stimuli. No good is served by further diluting our attention with more advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some common sense, then:</p>
<p>If Fayetteville were like New York City, where the taxi fleet is a widely-used part of the transit system, it might make some sense to have large cab company ads on top of cabs to advertise their presence and make them easier to hail. Since people in Fayetteville call for cabs, there is no need for them to have advertising signs on them. If the purpose is to advertise other businesses, then I&#8217;ll object on the grounds that I don&#8217;t acquire goods or services based on advertising. Since there is no likelihood that I would buy something based on an ad on top of a cab, I see no point in being subjected to such ads.</p>
<p>It is generally the case that vehicles with advertising on them are touting the business that owns the vehicle. As long as those ads are static and on the body of the vehicle, I can&#8217;t object to them. Once advertising is animated (the new trend in automotive advertising), brightly illuminated, or extends the envelope of the vehicle, it becomes a danger to traffic.</p>
<p>I would prefer that ORT not have to whore for money, but that&#8217;s the way it is. I acknowledge the social value of buses; I&#8217;ll also note that they are large enough to command attention and care, whether covered with ads or not.</p>
<p>If the cab companies need ad revenue from outside sources, then I suggest they put DVD players inside with advertising tracks based on the rider&#8217;s destination&#8211; grocery, mall, pharmacy, and so on, with additional ads interspersed.</p>
<p>We are already inundated with information and stimuli. No good is served by further diluting our attention with more advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: yrfuneralmytrial</title>
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		<dc:creator>yrfuneralmytrial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not buying for a second that ads upon cabs would endanger our sign code or gateway us into resembling Springdale. Nor do I subscribe to the &quot;threat to safety&quot; idea. Our sign code is awesome for it&#039;s intended purpose. I don&#039;t use cabs locally so personally, I could care less. I just think more common sense could be applied here. Reducing this to a Fayetteville vs. Springdale, we&#039;re great...they&#039;re hideous arguement is very exaggerated in my opinion. Ads on cabs...sorry, but I don&#039;t see much difference in this and huge decals adorning the doors of many vehicles, lighted signs on pizza delivery cars, the Schwan&#039;s ice cream man etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not buying for a second that ads upon cabs would endanger our sign code or gateway us into resembling Springdale. Nor do I subscribe to the &#8220;threat to safety&#8221; idea. Our sign code is awesome for it&#8217;s intended purpose. I don&#8217;t use cabs locally so personally, I could care less. I just think more common sense could be applied here. Reducing this to a Fayetteville vs. Springdale, we&#8217;re great&#8230;they&#8217;re hideous arguement is very exaggerated in my opinion. Ads on cabs&#8230;sorry, but I don&#8217;t see much difference in this and huge decals adorning the doors of many vehicles, lighted signs on pizza delivery cars, the Schwan&#8217;s ice cream man etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew, I&#039;m confused now. Is this an uglying up Fayetteville issue or a safety for oncoming traffic issue? Would it be acceptable for the taxis to cover themselves in wraps like ORT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew, I&#8217;m confused now. Is this an uglying up Fayetteville issue or a safety for oncoming traffic issue? Would it be acceptable for the taxis to cover themselves in wraps like ORT?</p>
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		<title>By: Total Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Total Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, they wouldn&#039;t ruin the city.  But it would be easy to make a slippery slope argument since Fayetteville&#039;s current sign code has been challenged several times in lawsuits.  This is part of the &quot;Live&quot; half of &quot;Live and Let Live.  I prefer to live in a city known for its trees rather than its resemblance to a truck stop.

The only question one must ask:   Is the loosened interpretation worth the risk of invalidating other sign ordinances?  Nope.  The city gains nothing, yet risks losing a lot.

Springdale, the most &#039;BUSINESS FRIENDLY&#039; chock-full-o-signs city in NWA, has the second highest population, and the third highest sales tax collections as of February 2008.  I didn&#039;t adjust it for the rates, but still...

Not great results.  

Fayetteville, with its &quot;crazy&quot; sign laws, and tree huggers, collects 170% of what Springdale collects.  

Not too shabby.

I can&#039;t speak for everyone on the issue, as I am sure there are people out there who moved to Springdale to be closer to Cracker Barrel after it was run oft by Fayetteville&#039;s sign code.  

Yep, they moved north, breathed the chicken-feed air, just to be closer to buttermilk biscuits, grits and faux nostalgia.  Kountry with a &quot;K&quot;.  What?  No?  Nobody moved to Springdale over Cracker Barrel? 

My bad.

Hippies piss me off a lot, but on the balance, they make pretty good neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they wouldn&#8217;t ruin the city.  But it would be easy to make a slippery slope argument since Fayetteville&#8217;s current sign code has been challenged several times in lawsuits.  This is part of the &#8220;Live&#8221; half of &#8220;Live and Let Live.  I prefer to live in a city known for its trees rather than its resemblance to a truck stop.</p>
<p>The only question one must ask:   Is the loosened interpretation worth the risk of invalidating other sign ordinances?  Nope.  The city gains nothing, yet risks losing a lot.</p>
<p>Springdale, the most &#8216;BUSINESS FRIENDLY&#8217; chock-full-o-signs city in NWA, has the second highest population, and the third highest sales tax collections as of February 2008.  I didn&#8217;t adjust it for the rates, but still&#8230;</p>
<p>Not great results.  </p>
<p>Fayetteville, with its &#8220;crazy&#8221; sign laws, and tree huggers, collects 170% of what Springdale collects.  </p>
<p>Not too shabby.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for everyone on the issue, as I am sure there are people out there who moved to Springdale to be closer to Cracker Barrel after it was run oft by Fayetteville&#8217;s sign code.  </p>
<p>Yep, they moved north, breathed the chicken-feed air, just to be closer to buttermilk biscuits, grits and faux nostalgia.  Kountry with a &#8220;K&#8221;.  What?  No?  Nobody moved to Springdale over Cracker Barrel? </p>
<p>My bad.</p>
<p>Hippies piss me off a lot, but on the balance, they make pretty good neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: David Franks</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Franks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re more than welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re more than welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: yrfuneralmytrial</title>
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		<dc:creator>yrfuneralmytrial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rooftop ads upon moving taxis would surely ruin this city. I&#039;d have to move to Canada. I&#039;m already upset enough by colorful banners on Dickson, locals with company logos on their vehicles (Flying Burrito, Noodles and a gazillion others). Everyone I turn, there&#039;s distractive signage. Seeing how I&#039;m a complete idiot, it&#039;s only a matter of time before I crash into someone. Thank you wise ones for seeing the inherent evil that is &quot;rooftop ads&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rooftop ads upon moving taxis would surely ruin this city. I&#8217;d have to move to Canada. I&#8217;m already upset enough by colorful banners on Dickson, locals with company logos on their vehicles (Flying Burrito, Noodles and a gazillion others). Everyone I turn, there&#8217;s distractive signage. Seeing how I&#8217;m a complete idiot, it&#8217;s only a matter of time before I crash into someone. Thank you wise ones for seeing the inherent evil that is &#8220;rooftop ads&#8221;.</p>
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