NAMA 2009 Nominees Announced
It’s that time of year again, Fayettevillers. It’s time to recognize all the local musicians that we’ve been talking about all year who’ve kept our toes tapping, rumps shaking, and who give us an excuse to change out of our sweatpants and oversized-beer-stained-cheeto-encrusted t-shirts (optional), and get out into the bars (or houses) for some tunes. That’s right. It’s NAMA time. Baby.
The Northwest Arkansas Music Awards (or the NAMAs, duh) are in their 14th year, and will be held at the Dickson St. Theatre on April 23rd at 9:00 pm.
This year’s nominees represent a lot of our favorite local bands, and several that we’ve talked to or about here on the Flyer. The voting this year is a little more secure too, so the Counterlife can’t stuff the ballot box like they always do (just kidding, Roger).
Another improvement this year is that some of the categories that are tough to quantify (Best Guitar Player, Best Bassist, Best Drummer, etc) and the one that I never really understood (Best Home Away From Home Band) are gone. This year’s ballot is more about the best bands in certain categories, the best vocalists, and album of the year.
To vote, register here, verify the link that will be sent to your email, login, and go to town.
So, what do you say? Who got snubbed? Who are your favorites for this year’s awards?
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Total Bastard
March 27, 2009
Shannon Wurst and 3 Penny Acre get my votes where I can give them.
I also like Family Dogs.
Dave Morris
March 27, 2009
Yeah, that metal listing clearly indicates that these bone smugglers have no clue what they’re talking about… Queen Beast goes and makes a record w/ a huge national producer and is better than every band on that list save maybe Deadbird and they get snubbed – wtf? This whole list is pretty weak but that’s the one that just floored me.
Dustin
March 27, 2009
Good call. Queen Beast does rule.
Total Bastard
March 27, 2009
When did they make the album? This list is for 2008. Otherwise, 3 Penny Acre’s new album should be on there. Did they make it in 2008? Was it good?
yrfuneralmytrial
March 27, 2009
Re Queen Beast, email the Free Weekly. She (Susan) openly asks for input (realizing she and the others may not be 100% in touch with every genre). Hopefully, they’ll note the oversight and add them to the list.
ts
March 27, 2009
Thanks For Nothing is not a southern rock band and a few of the people nominated don’t actually do what it requires to be in that category. Who do they take the insight from?
roger
March 27, 2009
they’ve never had a clue. why are people upset now? just give the award to deadbird and everyone move on… i’ve won namas and can let the cat out of the bag for any band that wants to “make it bigtime”. they don’t include a formula to write better songs, they don’t get thousands of people to suddenly realize your band, it’s a party. write interesting music and ignore the filler.
Dave Morris
March 27, 2009
I agree that in the grand scheme of things like the NAMAs don’t matter too much but at the same time they are (at least in theory) supposed to be reflective of the local music scene and if people that actually take the time to do something like this can’t be bothered to figure out who the hardworking bands are around then it’s probably safe to assume that regular folks won’t either and I think that’s sad. Too much posturing and not enough support goes on here. I just specifically spoke up about Queen Beast because they’re my good friends and that one seemed really obvious to me. To be perfectly honest I also thought it was crap for bands like Friday Maybe Saturday, Auger, the Sinking South, and even my own band (The Inner Party, not messed up about saying I think we’re better than most other bands around here) got snubbed. Oh well, we all have a nice big interview coming out in the next issue of Hails & Horns. Maybe folks reading it in Barnes and Nobles, Hot Topics, and Borders across the country will appreciate what most folks around here don’t bother taking the time to even acknowledge.
yrfuneralmytrial
March 27, 2009
NAMA is essentially Susan and a mish-mash of yearly volunteers. She openly invites feedback from a number of people because she realizes her house-party attendance is getting lower and lower ;) However, regardless of the live music scene’s health in any given year, she’s managed to keep it going a long damn time now. As Reggie Q. pointed out, it’s a party… just a fun event that maybe boosts the morale and visibility of local musicians. Anyone struttin’ like they’re at the real Grammys is missing the point (sorry Del Schreve & Co.). Are there yearly “wtf?” nominees, winners & losers? Yes. However, unless you included everyone that farted a musical note in ‘08, someone is going to be offended. So go and have fun or don’t… can’t fault her for drumming up free beer, a limo and publicity.
bryce
March 28, 2009
I think it’s awesome that we even have local music awards. I just wish they would move to a jury format. As it stands it’s just a contest to see who can email/myspace/facebook the most people. Appoint “expert” jury members and have them actually listen to the material, and pick winners.
Dave Morris
March 28, 2009
My point was there’s a whole other scene of bands around here that all do plenty well for themselves yet all have a much harder time in dealing w/ the local scene “establishment” for lack of a better way to put it. This is a far cry from “everyone that farted a musical note in ‘08″ but good job with the pretty douche way of marginalizing folks. I’m just tired of this place being dominated by people that think the use of an acoustic guitar automatically equals top-notch and intensive songwriting and/or that if you’re not ripping off Bob Dylan, the Carter Family, the Grateful Dead, or anything else that could be painted w/ the broad brush of Bonnaroo cool that you’re somehow not vital… oh wait I also left out ultra-hipsters that have an extremely specific concept of what it means to be an “indie” band. There are still some good bands on the list of nominees but overall it’s a group of tame and safe bands and there’s lots of cats on there that all basically do the same thing. At any rate I thought the point of this thread was to share our thoughts about who got snubbed and whatnot, not to suck up and celebrate mediocrity.
yrfuneralmytrial
March 28, 2009
I didn’t marginalize anyone. Just pointing out the fact that unless nearly every local musician was nominated for something, there’s a great chance someone will feel insulted. You should start your own awards event. Then, the rest of the world can be enlightened to this missed brilliance. Or, you could complain more whilst sliding in backhanded plugs for your own band. Pathetic.
butt-bomb
March 28, 2009
Right on yrfuneralmytrial.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 28, 2009
Totally agree, yrfuneralmytrial. None of these bands threw their names in to the hat to get these nominations. They are simply the bands that have turned some heads in the past year. Sorry to break it to you, Dave M., but yours didn’t. Maybe next year. Give the folks who got in a nod, stop being so defeatist about the Fayetteville scene (you can always pack it up if you don’t like it, by the way), and keep plugging away at your ****. Make people notice. No one is going to dig your sound if you bitch about the scene and type of people around here that actually listen to the music at clubs and pubs. That’s just bad strategy, mate.
roger
March 28, 2009
i agree they did leave out a lot, and for people who are interested in could be considered a snub. at least they nominated deadbird (the best metal band in arkansas, ever, period), and shout lulu is an amazing band featuring amazing people. and a lot of other sweet bands are nominated. for those that weren’t i highly suggest checking out auger, FMS, queen beast, zombie dice, color club, st. anthony, egyptr, the rox, goslin, the majesty, and any band making interesting music.
Dave Morris
March 28, 2009
I don’t particularly care about our band not getting a nod outside of my overall point (more on that in a minute) but any of you jokers that want to say “we didn’t turn any heads” or whatever are more than welcome to wash your mouth out w/ buckshot. None of said bands lobbied for an award b/c that’s about the lamest thing ever. If specifically asking for it is the main criterion maybe that explains a lot about the list. My point is these awards are portrayed as being representative of the entire region (they’re the *Northwest Arkansas* Music Awards, not the “couple of folks who got together to pick’em” awards) while they pretty much completely ignore a very large network of other viable bands all together. In addition to the bands I originally talked about I can think of a good twenty or so local bands that would be worthy contenders for any kind of legit recognition of contributions to local music but don’t fit into narrow and corny categories like “Pop Rock” or “Power Popl” (wtf is the difference)… I mean, there are a ton of bands around here that could be painted with the broad brush of “punk” yet there’s not even a category for it? Sounds like taste bias to me. With few exceptions the nominees (and I have love and respect for several of them) are all indicative of the tastes of one homogenic group of folks and I still contend that’s lame. If that’s reason enough for a couple of sycophants to make a bunch of attacks at me personally then whatever. My only goal was to get folks talking about it so thanks for playing into my hands.
Dave Morris
March 28, 2009
One more thing – the notion that the people I was complaining about are like universally “the scene and type of people around here that actually listen to the music at clubs and pubs” is part of the problem. Those clowns only represent a part of that group and the rest of us are precluded (and marginalized!) when there’s a slate of nominees like this. At any rate I certainly don’t need a lecture on how to hustle a band from some anonymous trash talking nimrod, especially when his advice is so worthless. Anyone that would judge my band’s sound based on whether or not they think I’m out of line on a discussion thread is probably not going to be someone whose opinion I and probably a lot of other folks are going to care about. I’m very proud to be the Anton Newcombe of Fayetteville.
Barry
March 28, 2009
I agree with Bryce. Although it is nice that the NAMA’s have been around to give local music some attention, this show probably marks the first time voting will accurately reflect the area’s opinions. So we’re starting out 2009 with a functioning popularity contest rather than a broken one. It’s a People’s Choice Award now. For now, it’s an opportunity for musicians to dress up, feel important and popular, mooch some free stuff, ride in a limo, take a picture, and act like drunks and jerks. Maybe someone will get on the mic and talk about how we all need to drop the drama and appreciate all genres or whatever, so get ready for that.
My suggestion? Already came up…have an expert panel that selects the nominees, discusses the merits of each, and reaches a final verdict. Instead of encouraging bands to compete against each other in yearly promotion wars, let the musicians focus on what they do best, creating and performing music. Take the focus off popularity and redirect it to having a really entertaining program, and I’m there. Btw, for anybody who feels snubbed. It’s Fayetteville, not exactly a cutthroat music scene. If you flew under the radar, maybe that’s your own fault?
Dave Morris
March 28, 2009
I don’t feel I or any of the many many quality bands that got snubbed “flew under the radar” rather I reject the notion of this being the radar. Not to sound too much like John Edwards but I feel like there are basically two Fayetteville music scenes, one for safe and smug hipster dicks and one that’s a lot more raw, confrontational, and DIY. Those of us in the latter aren’t going to cry over being glazed over by the former but I at least will continue to raise hell and be highly amused by how many people are eager to be defensive and talk sh-t.
Scott Stapp of Creed
March 28, 2009
jesus dave it’s one thing to talk about not caring and another to post multi-paragraph essays about it a billion times in a row
Dave Morris
March 28, 2009
Sorry Scott Stapp that I’m not plainspoken enough for you but I don’t really feel like my gripe has been fairly characterized in these cheap little non-quips I’m responding to and consequently I want to go into enough detail to at least be understand if not agreed with. Me rejecting the premise of these arguments is not the same as me not caring about the NAMAs. I do however very much regret saying anything about my band though b/c that’s not what this is about and it made it waaay too easy for people to try to simplify it as such.
Scott Stapp of Creed
March 28, 2009
don’t cry =(
yrfuneralmytrial
March 28, 2009
“I’m very proud to be the Anton Newcombe of Fayetteville.”
-Holy smokes!!! The “Sour Grapes Express” just got smashed to tiny bits by a double-decker bus of delusion and self-importance. Not to sound too much like John Edwards er…Lloyd Bentsen but you sir, are no Anton Newcombe.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 29, 2009
once again, yrfuneralmytrial, you have gotten to the heart of the matter. this Dave person has completely lost it. His posts have gotten to the point of absurdity and shouldnt be taken seriously from this moment forward. The guy watched “DiG” and thinks he’s Anton. 1) Weird. 2) Not really something to be all that proud of, considering the the comparison between he and anton is in the ego, not in the brilliance of music – ego notwithstanding (i heard the band he plugged earlier via myspace; not good/interesting). So the only place to go from here is to say that I UNDERSTAND why you weren’t chosen for an award, Dave, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the second-class citizen music scene that you claim to be a part of, yet more to do with the fact that your band is uninspiring. period.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 29, 2009
another point towards bryce and barry; don’t you think a jury would have the same affect as your views on the ballot? A jury would be chosen – most likely out of the group of peers that had the charge of the nominations in the first place – and it would still be subjective. I can hear the noise right now. We would have a whole new group of people saying, “oh man, the NAMA jury just picks people who suck the Dickson St. ****; they don’t know real music [our music].” So, again, let the people decide. They are the ones out listening to the bands. The facebook, myspace ballot loading theory is garbage; voting on this thing takes effort (sorry, NAMA website, but it does). So most likely, only folks who have the will to see a band succeed (i.e. fans) will go through the process. But of course, that is just one man’s opinion – and that man happens to be a genius.
-anton newcombe
yrfuneralmytrial
March 29, 2009
Totally agree. There’s no way to have awards show that doesn’t seem askew to someone (Best Heavy Metal Band = Jethro Tull anyone?). If you don’t take Nama seriously (and really, no one should), why be upset at being excluded? If nominated, you might actually win and then have to get up and accept an award knowing it’s pretty much hollow. Again, go and have fun…or don’t.
Barry
March 29, 2009
Ok, sure. There are hipsters and DIY folks around here. But that’s certainly not all. What about the mainstream? What about the alt-country mafia? Dividing this town into two groups just doesn’t work. I can’t say for sure, but I suspect the group that decides on NAMA nominees every year is a diverse cross-section of the community. Maybe they don’t follow trends or dig as deeply as we would like, but they do make an effort. Lumping them all into the “hipster ****” category is probably way off the mark.
That said, if they are going to be an anonymous group deciding the annual nominees, why not just pick the winners? It’s their party. They have to listen to ungrateful/insulted musicians every year, but they push on with a smile into the small hours of the ceremony. We know that people will complain no matter what. I just don’t like the popular vote model because I don’t have much faith in humanity. None of us is as dumb as all of us. A panel holding themselves and each other accountable for their opinions is the way to go. And again, they could focus on a great show filled with music and entertainment, something comparable to the big-name award shows the NAMA’s are supposed to be modeled after.
Andy Hate
March 29, 2009
Hahahahahaha. Well first off. The Inner Party DID turn plenty of heads in ‘08, sorry to break it to YOU, Jack Pierce. If this were legit they would be voted the best new band of the year, period. This is the biggest load of **** the NAMA’s have even produced. Dave is right, out of all the metal bands the only one that is worth mentioning is Deadbird. THIS IS A JOKE!!! But hell, what isn’t when considering most of this town music scene??? We have a “World” catagory but no “Punk” We have “Metal” and Hard Rock” in the same catagory??? That’s not even remotly the same thing. and yes, Queen Beast’s album was recorded in ‘08.
Dave Morris
March 29, 2009
I love it that this funeral loser thinks I’m the one that’s delusional yet they’re steadfastly defending themselves and the NAMAs as some kind of true barometer of what’s going on in NWA. I should just appoint myself “NWA Tastemaker” – it carries about as much weight as your nonsense does. My analysis re: Anton Newcombe is that he’s someone who speaks a lot of truth and doesn’t care if people like or agree with what he says and that’s what I’m trying to do right now. This was never like some personal crusade against the folks behind the NAMAs as people; I’m sure they’re all very nice and everything, but when they very obviously did not consider a huge portion of bands around here yet people still think that these awards are some kind of direct indicator of how good a band is (see the remarks from this Pierce POS about how the Inner Party didn’t get a nod b/c we’re not good) I believe I’m well within my rights to say something. Of course a dbag like you isn’t going to like us or any of our friends’ bands; I wouldn’t expect someone who seriously think that all these pop bands are the cream of the crop to get what a band like the Party or Queen Beast or a bunch of others are doing.
yrfuneralmytrial
March 29, 2009
I give up.
a. brown
March 29, 2009
Best. Thread. Ever.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 29, 2009
Truly bizarre.
Anna
March 29, 2009
Why be hateful? Calling people (or their fans or their work) names doesn’t help the “scene” no matter which one it is – on Dickson or off.
Musicians need to be supportive of each other, whether they like what they’re doing artistically or not… Anybody out there working and gigging and doing it for the love of doing it gets my vote.
And fans don’t need to be alienating other would-be fans by showing their worst side. If you badmouth a venue, or a band, you may just turn someone off from your favorite band if they ever play in one of “those” places. You may just cause some of that reverse psychology they’ll think either the place has a bad rep or the musicians are jackasses.
timyajackoffalltrades
March 30, 2009
We really need a punk category. I feel like I should spell the word period. The Inner Party should have gotten a nod as well as Queen Beast and maybe I’m a bit prtial but, what about FMS, Auger and Sinking South? Don’t be a **** and say these bands failed to ” turn any heads” I guess if you are the type of person that gets off on a band like Kind this is your award show.I for one dig real metal. Maybe its time to make metal and hard rock different categories. As far as I can tell only one metal band got a nod. DEADBIRD!!!
a. brown
March 30, 2009
Something about punk music makes me think that they probably aren’t all into hierarchical contests for “best” album/band what-have-you.
yrfuneralmytrial
March 30, 2009
@ a. brown – my exact thought from the beginning. When did “outside” bands start giving a hump about popularity contests? I mean, don’t you already realize before you even put finger to fret that your music isn’t for everyone? Isn’t that at least part of the point? Can you imagine Joy Division, Sonic Youth, The Stooges etc… going on Facebook, MySpace etc… and soliciting people to “vote” for them? Or worse, giving a damn about not being included? Let’s say everyone was nominated…and then you “win”. Are you really the “best”? No. So can you really take stock of your artistic achievements (good or bad) via Nama? No. Nama is what it is. A light-hearted party where musicians of all genres can butt up next to each and say hello. I support it if for no other reason than the FreeWeekly has been the only (excepting the arrival of the FF) press to ever care at all about interesting local music.
brains
March 30, 2009
@yrfuneralmytrial – “Nama is what it is. A light-hearted party where musicians of all genres can butt up next to each and say hello. I support it if for no other reason than the FreeWeekly has been the only (excepting the arrival of the FF) press to ever care at all about interesting local music.”
I love your point. I have been to the NAMAs for two or three years and you go and you drink and you talk to people that are in bands who love to write music and play a million different instruments. You hear some bands play that you might not have ever heard before (I think one year I heard some really awesome opera singers)and you have fun. I have NEVER been to a show in northwest Arkansas or been introduced to a new band and thought “I wonder how many NAMAs they’ve won?”
timyajackoffalltrades
March 30, 2009
All I’m trying to say is that bands such as Queen Beast ,Auger, Sinking South and Inner Party were hard at work bringing heavy national acts such as Rwake, Consular, Heat Machine, Zoroaster etc. to fayetteville this year, and have gotten attention from national magazines but cant get any from the free weekly. I’m not at all concerned about my band not being nominated but also dont mind tooting my own horn at all by saying that we are one of the heaviest bands around. Queen Beast should have gotten a nod if no one else. The album is brutal!
George
March 30, 2009
Dave my friend. I’ll be frank (you can still be Dave). I like your band. You guys have a good sound for my taste. The Fayetteville scene is better with you in it. But you’re really coming off as a dick here….and not in a mysterious “who gives a f#%k” kind of way.
The Inner Party image I had in my head wouldn’t give a rat’s tiny ass about NAMA. Leave that for the cheese-d&$ks. Nor would they brag about some pub with the Hot Topic crowd. You’re making me re-think my appreciation.
It’s really difficult to have any kind of entertainment based awards without either (A)Bringing in the bias of the people who run it, or (B)Turning it into a marketing contest.
Dave Morris
March 30, 2009
why can’t anyone understand my point here?!?!?!?! This is not me complaining about the Party not getting an award so please stop attacking that straw man. I mentioned that as an aside in relation to my greater point and as I’ve already said I really regret doing so because it turned this into something it’s not. Funeral’s doublethink logic really kind of sums up my point. In one sentence he openly admits this is something that’s not for everyone (feeding into my point of it being exclusive i.e. for all the establishment bands) and in the next is like “oh hey it’s just this big hippy party for everyone to have fun at.” Well, if it’s by virtue of its nature exclusive then I think it’s pretty hypocritical for it to also be paraded as something fun for everyone. Don’t you understand the contradiction in your own logic Funeral? I just don’t like the idea that this crap is somehow indicative of who the best bands in town are and that’s really what I’ve been protesting the whole time. If we had been nominated we certainly wouldn’t have spent any time soliciting votes or whatever and in my opinion neither would any cool band so I certainly don’t care about who the actual winners are. The nomination process is what I have beef with… and George I’m really sorry (seriously) if what I say impairs your enjoyment of our band but we’re not some punk stereotype. Honestly I get tired of being called a punk band b/c as a general rule I don’t really like genres and I think it evokes a bunch of inaccurate stereotypes for us to live up to (case and point) but for something like this I can see the need for broad categories and that’s why I mentioned a punk category. The bottom line is the NAMAs create an image (inaccurate as I may think it is, or as silly as you think it might be) of who the good bands around town are and when it’s selection process turns a blind eye to such a significant part of the pool of local bands that become problematic for us. I learned a long time ago that regardless of how much in my heart I’m just doing what I do for myself (and at the end of the day that’s the only real reason why I’m in the Inner Party) there’s still a business/reality based side of things you have to deal with if you ever want to have a band on any kind of larger scale. As punk as it may be, I don’t want for our scene (Queen Beast, Sinking South, Auger, FMS, etc etc) to be so self-gratifying that we’re all just playing to each other. I’m sure some **** might try to say this really proves that I’m whining about not being nominated but that’s incidental; I would be pitching the same fit if we were on there and all of the other bands that I think got outright snubbed still got snubbed). As far as my mention of our Hails & Horns article that admittedly was me just trying to be a **** and I’m sure anyone will tell you that I’m easily the biggest ****head in the Inner Party and an **** in general and if that makes you not like our band well.. sorry homey.
Dave Morris
March 30, 2009
One other thing, Funeral… you mention your love of the NAMAs b/c they “give a hump about local music” and even go so far as to say that besides the FF (who have given love to some of the bands I’m sticking up for – thanks yo) they’re really the entity in town that does. How can you not understand my aggravation at one of the only things in town that cares about the local scene not caring about a ton of bands?!?!?!
Dave Morris
March 30, 2009
Ok this is the last one for now, I promise… you also mention this crap about the Stooges, Joy Division, Sonic Youth etc. and how they would never be concerned about anything like this. I have a couple of responses… one, those bands had record labels to worry about marketing, getting them gigs, etc etc etc… none of the bands I’m defending have that luxury. Two, they’re each from entirely different times and entirely different towns that what we’re living in now. I guarantee you it was a lot easier for a band to get attention in Detroit in the late 60s/early 70s, Manchester in the late 70s, or NYC in the early 80s to get noticed than it is for bands to get noticed in 2009 in this town that can’t even keep JR’s or the OPO or any other real rock club in business. I’m confident that if you used a time machine and put any of those bands in their early prime here playing shows they’d have a hard time getting noticed b/c they don’t use a bunch of acoustic guitars or want to to be the Beatles. Finally, I think you’d be surprised how many bands that in your mind have this DGAF mentality actually do have egos… a lot of that is in the marketing anyway, but it’s also easy to not care when things have naturally fallen into place for you already.
Nathan Explosion
March 30, 2009
First of all, I didn’t bother reading all those comments so I may be changing the subject here…
Speaking for myself as opposed to a representative of my band, I am relieved that Queen Beast wasn’t nominated this year. Yeah, partying at the award show is fun, and free press is usually a good thing, but I have no desire to be affiliated in any way with entities such as the Free Weekly and the NAMA awards. The people running the Dickson Street freak show are utterly out of touch with musical integrity, creativity, and what’s REALLY going on this town. No one seems to care about getting legitimate music to come to town. No one seems to care about mixing things up and maybe having a band that’s a little out of the ordinary play at their venue. Froggy’s shut down so maybe that’s a bit of progress, only time will tell.
As with any other career choice, it’s about sucking the right ****, playing what’s safe and popular, and being as pretentious and pompous as possible. This is quite the cliche but I’m afraid it’s the absolute truth. I’m NOT saying this to discredit any of the nominated bands, because obviously some great bands are on the list this year. I find that the problem lies in the people who are doing the nominating, not the people being nominated. It’s bizarre (to me, at least) that the Counterlife would be thrown in the metal/hard rock category because I find the band’s music to be much more of the indie rock category, but maybe I’m in the minority. They’re a great band and deserve an award, but I’m afraid they may not be “metal” enough to come out on top in that category. Hopefully I’m wrong.
Anyway, good luck to the bands that deserve it. And those of you who are interested in some truly fantastic NWA music, do yourselves a favor and check out Auger, Friday Maybe Saturday, Mountain Sprout, The Inner Party, The Bling Grenades, Lethal Red, Vore, and Genome Chomsky.
Nathan Explosion
March 30, 2009
Oh and one more thing… Jethro Tull > Metallica. The Grammy’s actually got something right.
Scott Stapp of Creed
March 30, 2009
This is a fantastic example of why law students and NAMA-nominated rockers are mutually exclusive groups. Less talk more rock, son!
Andy Hate
March 30, 2009
Let’s all go and suck Ben Del Shrieve’s ****!!! That’s all the NAMA’a are good for anyways… Go Deadbird.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 30, 2009
eeew, Andy. Let’s not.
By the way, what is a funeral loser? Am I the only person that is bothered by this? It doesn’t make sense. It sounds like a D&D insult. Lame.
Dave Morris
March 30, 2009
Are you dense? “Funeral” as “yrfuneralmytrial” and loser as in loser – wtf does that have to do w/ D&D?
yrfuneralmytrial
March 30, 2009
Jesus Christ…I’ve got to read short-stories now just follow this thread?
You’re a long-winded little fella aren’t ya? Isn’t there a character limit to these posts? Can we get one please? Did you pause and breathe occasionally or did it all come out in one mad burst? By the way, if you’re going to attempt to retell something I’ve said, please do make an effort to read it and comprehend it first. Your manic pace BS technique is awesome for street conversations but falls flat in print. Hugs & kisses, Funeral Loser.
Jack Pierce;DEA
March 31, 2009
so it’s not a clever name? Plus, yrfuneralmytrial, he’s no little fella.
George
March 31, 2009
Okay Dave. I’m back to being a fan of Inner Party. ‘Cause ur a little off the reservation….and I like it.
unicorn
March 31, 2009
Ok folks, please please please don’t do the internet tough guy thing. These comment boards are a great way to have a local discourse (thanks flyer) and I’d love it if it stayed that way. I say you guys have some sort of arm wrestling contest or chili cook-off or something.
timyajackoffalltrades
March 31, 2009
Chili Cook-off!!! Go Deadbird!!!
Dave Morris
March 31, 2009
I’m sorry that you apparently don’t have the capacity to follow complex thoughts and that a few paragraphs qualify as short stories for you. Everything can’t be summed up in tiny little blurbs… did you happen to vote for Bush and/or McCain? You seem to have the right mentality. Word on the tough guy thing. All I’m gonna say is that I don’t care who’s not a “little fella” and obviously I haven’t taken any measures to disguise my identity…
Dave Morris
March 31, 2009
Yeah Timbo I’m pretty sure that Chuck could win a chili cook off for Deadbird w/ ease.
yrfuneralmytrial
March 31, 2009
@unicorn – suggesting a chili cook-off or arm wrestling contest to an armless man who happens to be extremely allergic to chili powder is pretty uncool. Way to go bud. I bet you wouldn’t suggest that crap to my face. Keep it up and I’ll roshambo you (foot style) into next week. On a serious note, I’m happy to give this debate a well deserved rest. Peace out.
Boggy Creek Creature
March 31, 2009
Why not use the NAMA as the culmination of a week-long (or weekend-long) Fayetteville music festival?
Every club (not just Dickson St.) that can shows as much local talent off as they can, then everyone gets together for prizes.
I don’t think anyone’s ever used a NAMA to further their career, but we could use it to foster some local music cooperation and celebration.
Todd
March 31, 2009
Boggy’s got the same idea as us. In fact we were just talking about this to someone yesterday. We’d love to see the awards ceremony become an aside to a much more celebratory event.
Boggy Creek Creature
March 31, 2009
Awesome, Todd! I think this could be the Flyer’s big moment.
What a lucky person to get to hang out with the Flyer crew.
timyajackoffalltrades
April 1, 2009
Great idea!!!
yrfuneralmytrial
April 1, 2009
I think it’s a great idea…possibly in theory only at this point. Not naysayin’ …just thinking. How many venues (that serve) do we currently have that make their rent offering live music? Goerge’s, Gypsy…I’m blank. Who else? Now bands…seems to be a ton. Now, how many have real fanbases (i.e. fans that would come out, pay cover/tix money etc…). Thirdly, is there a healthy live music support/interest from the public? That seems to be the culprit. Seems to be a lot of different talented bands of various genres but not much fan support beyond the “80 persons paid” ceiling. Which is why there’s so few (and no central DIY venue) venues. There won’t be another JR’s for underground music until there’s a demand for it beyond free/house show levels (not knocking house shows). Even in the best of times, JR’s offered plenty of cheesy/frat stuff to make it all work. And that was with healthy “must go to the show” support. Just talkin’.
Todd
April 1, 2009
@yrfuneralmytrial – You’re right. It’s not quite time for something like that here but personally, I think there’s hope. Let’s all keep doing what we can. And speaking of JR’s, can we all have a moment of silence in remembrance of the legendary hot dog eating championship they had there?
yrfuneralmytrial
April 1, 2009
Man, you should start a best/worst/strangest/coolest/wackiest thing you ever did/saw/heard/etc… at JR’s.
yrfuneralmytrial
April 1, 2009
I skipped a word in that sentence. “Post” or “thread” would help.
Nathan Explosion
April 1, 2009
OK lets get down to the real issue here…
Is nobody gonna freak out that I said Jethro Tull is more metal than Metallica?
Psy-Trance Rulz
April 1, 2009
I can’t believe these DJ nominations !!! Fayetteville has a thriving psytrance/acid/goa/progressive/trip-out scene and it’s not even getting a nomination in the electronic/groove category? It should have it’s own category! The nominated DJs have no concept of the spiritude of trance music and it’s inherent connection to our chakras. These guys just put on stupid, popular “electro bangers” and try to entice drunk people onto the dance floor. I tried to go to the “Fix Ultralounge” one time and they wouldn’t even let me in because they said my Jncos were too baggy and I couldn’t wear my knit cap! I’ll take a good old farm rave any day.
yrfuneralmytrial
April 1, 2009
@ Nathan – I noticed and no freak-out here. Anyone that can take a song about a snot-nosed pedophile to #1 is plenty metal in my book haha! Besides, Metalica pretty much gave up the mystique with that wackadoo documentary. A mistake Tull would never make.
George
April 1, 2009
Dude, you are so right. I watched that documentary and lost all respect for Metallica. Lars and Hefield acted like total whiny bitches. Kirk had this look on his face like ‘what the hell is wrong with you a-holes?’ Plus any band that would turn down Pepper Keenan as a bassist is freaking insane (although Robert Trujilo is pretty damn good). Jeez, I know way to much about a band that I never listen to any more.
J Tull > Metallica
Jack Pierce;DEA
April 1, 2009
J Tull > most
Boggy Creek Creature
April 2, 2009
most > Metallica
unicorn
April 2, 2009
pretty much anything > metallica
Nathan Explosion
April 5, 2009
+1 to all this…
Any band that would choose the frog walking midget Trujillo over Scott Reeder (one of the best bass players to have ever lived) obviously hasn’t listened to enough Kyuss.
And I’m glad to see this discussion is back on the right track.
ts
April 6, 2009
I lost all respect for Dave Morris when he did the following:
Post
Compare himself to another individual
Brag about his band
I am in a band that has been nominated for the last 5 years… We are currently nominated in a category of music we don’t play. I would rather take away all nominations, which mean nothing to my band members and myself, after noticing how a lot of hard work and dedication gets blown off. I don’t need nominations to tell my band that we have achieved anything. It would be nice not to be nominated under a genre of music we absolutely despise. It’s honestly like a, “just put them somewhere” situation. For this, the NAMA’s can stick it. The real bands and musicians in Fayetteville know this is ridiculous. The ones that are seriously upset about it, Dave Morris, are the ones who need to play a show or two outside of Fayetteville and learn how to make our scene better, as opposed to being an example of why it’s failing.
George
April 6, 2009
@Nathan Explosion – Considerable bonus pts for mentioning Kyuss. One of the most underrated rock bands of the 90’s. Man…I totally have to dig them out now. Trujillo did have Infectious Grooves and a good part of Suicidal Tendencies’ run. Not too shabby.
Just to keep this remotely relevant to the thread…..I totally need to catch a Queen Beast live show. Been hearing good things about those guys.
Boggy Creek Creature
April 6, 2009
ts-
Hear hear, sir! The categories are meaningless, but the awards ceremony could be a blast.
Why not replace them with “Best Smile”?
“Most Outrageous Haircut”?
“Tightest Pants”?
p.s.- i think i know which band you’re in. and i voted for you.
Boggy Creek Creature
April 6, 2009
And yes, “Most Outrageous Haircut” would be the name of my Japanese pop band.
I know this is the wrong thread for that. I just don’t care.
Dave Morris
April 8, 2009
Who is this “TS” coward? You’re gonna make an attack on me yet not have the sack to identify yourself or your mysterious band? WEAK. I don’t care if you think I’m part of the “real bands and musicians” or not, particularly considering that I have no idea who you are… but also since your post is incoherent blather. I’m not gonna rehash my whole point again but you very obviously have no idea what you’re talking about, especially if you’re alleging that we don’t play shows outside of Fayetteville or are part of why the “scene” is failing. It’s so hilarious that there are so many people on here that make vicious personal attacks at someone simply for having an opinion. I’m not losing any sleep over it or anything, but seriously. I know I took some shots at folks and I don’t back away from that at all but that was also after I got attacked for criticizing the selections, etc. – which, again, is what I thought the point of this was supposed to be in the first place.
Nicky
April 13, 2009
Hey Dave!
Methinks thou dost protest too much…
You keep posting and posting and posting about how nobody gets your point but that it doesn’t matter because you just don’t care.
If you don’t care, why don’t you just quit posting and go practice in your garage?
Geez, somebody take his keyboard away from him before he hurts himself…
See you on April 23rd!
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